SilverHamer
07-14-2008, 10:34 PM
Hi everybody. I received this in an email this afternoon from someone whom I consider a very reliable source of this kind of information. As I read this, I became extremely enraged. I have never been a huge fan of George W, but the retired military side of me has always kept my mouth in check with regards to slamming him for incompetence, and everything else anyone has to say about him...Bush's own words and actions usually takes care of that part for me...LOL. (Oooops...I slipped) But the bottom line on this is that there really WAS a potential threat of Iraqi WMDs after the first war in Iraq, but some incompetent jackass on the inside of our government was a major component in torpedoing George W's reasoning for going to war with Saddam. My personal opinion is that Mr. Joseph Wilson is worthy of being tried for Dereliction of Duty and High Treason. His actions, or lack thereof, have been a major key in causing a terrible division, not only in our government, but among our people in general...and at the worst possible time.
I usually avoid politically-based discussions like this, but I have to say that this really has me pissed. Good people have been literally at each other's throats over the issue of WMDs, the president ridiculed and bad-mouthed and blamed for a senseless war with no clear objective, etc. Well, the objective WAS made clear early on, and that was to rid Iraq of it's capability to deliver WMDs...and so now this shit comes to surface and has basically exonerated Bush on the issue. BUT, mark my words...he will NOT receive any apologies and there will most likely be hoards of people hell-bent on saying that none of this is true, yada yada yada, because admitting that Bush was right is just too hard to do. Sorry, but I have to side with him on this one because now we seem to have evidence to support it. Have a look at this message from my co-worker, and then click the link at the end and read what is being published in the Canadian news. I see a slight discrepancy with the amount of yellowcake...606 tons, 550 tons, or whatever, but the fact is that if you divide up that tonnage, at 2000 lbs per ton, there is definitely cause for alarm and I am personally glad that this threat is now over. NOW LET'S BRING THE TROOPS HOME, DAMMIT!
Cleared w. Snopes ...
Another Bush "lie" may be cleared...
* 606 Tons of Saddam's Uranium Yellowcake Spirited to Canada *
The heart of the 'Bush lied' charge was Joseph Wilson's absence of evidence that Saddam Hussein had bought uranium yellowcake in Niger:
Wilson became known to the general public as a result
of his controversial op-ed "What I Didn't Find in
Africa", published in the New York Times four months
after the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Wilson's op-ed
documented his 2002 Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)
investigation into whether Iraq had purchased or
attempted to purchase uranium yellowcake from Niger.
He concluded that the George W. Bush administration
twisted intelligence to "exaggerate the Iraqi
threat."
The logical flaw, of course, is that absence of evidence and evidence of absence are two very different things. It turns out that Saddam had somehow managed to stockpile 606 tons of the critical nuclear component despite the watchful eyes of Ambassador Wilson:
The last major remnant of Saddam Hussein's nuclear
program - a huge stockpile of concentrated natural
uranium - reached a Canadian port Saturday to
complete a secret U.S. operation that included a
two-week airlift from Baghdad and a ship voyage
crossing two oceans.
The removal of 550 metric tons of "yellowcake" - the
seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment -
was a significant step toward closing the books on
Saddam's nuclear legacy. It also brought relief to
U.S. and Iraqi authorities who had worried the cache
would reach insurgents or smugglers crossing to Iran
to aid its nuclear ambitions.
"Everyone is very happy to have this safely out of
Iraq," said a senior U.S. official who outlined the
nearly three-month operation to The Associated Press.
The deal culminated more than a year of intense
diplomatic and military initiatives - kept hushed in
fear of ambushes or attacks once the convoys were
under way: first carrying 3,500 barrels by road to
Baghdad, then on 37 military flights to the Indian
Ocean atoll of Diego Garcia and finally aboard a
U.S.-flagged ship for a 8,500-mile trip to Montreal.
A frequent indictment of the war in Iraq is that the Bush administration was negligent in planning for the securing of WMDs. The article above seems to provide evidence to the contrary.
Will be interesting to see if this makes the U.S. news...
It's already in the Canadian news:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20080708.YELLOWCAKE08/TPStory/TPNational/Ontario/
I usually avoid politically-based discussions like this, but I have to say that this really has me pissed. Good people have been literally at each other's throats over the issue of WMDs, the president ridiculed and bad-mouthed and blamed for a senseless war with no clear objective, etc. Well, the objective WAS made clear early on, and that was to rid Iraq of it's capability to deliver WMDs...and so now this shit comes to surface and has basically exonerated Bush on the issue. BUT, mark my words...he will NOT receive any apologies and there will most likely be hoards of people hell-bent on saying that none of this is true, yada yada yada, because admitting that Bush was right is just too hard to do. Sorry, but I have to side with him on this one because now we seem to have evidence to support it. Have a look at this message from my co-worker, and then click the link at the end and read what is being published in the Canadian news. I see a slight discrepancy with the amount of yellowcake...606 tons, 550 tons, or whatever, but the fact is that if you divide up that tonnage, at 2000 lbs per ton, there is definitely cause for alarm and I am personally glad that this threat is now over. NOW LET'S BRING THE TROOPS HOME, DAMMIT!
Cleared w. Snopes ...
Another Bush "lie" may be cleared...
* 606 Tons of Saddam's Uranium Yellowcake Spirited to Canada *
The heart of the 'Bush lied' charge was Joseph Wilson's absence of evidence that Saddam Hussein had bought uranium yellowcake in Niger:
Wilson became known to the general public as a result
of his controversial op-ed "What I Didn't Find in
Africa", published in the New York Times four months
after the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Wilson's op-ed
documented his 2002 Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)
investigation into whether Iraq had purchased or
attempted to purchase uranium yellowcake from Niger.
He concluded that the George W. Bush administration
twisted intelligence to "exaggerate the Iraqi
threat."
The logical flaw, of course, is that absence of evidence and evidence of absence are two very different things. It turns out that Saddam had somehow managed to stockpile 606 tons of the critical nuclear component despite the watchful eyes of Ambassador Wilson:
The last major remnant of Saddam Hussein's nuclear
program - a huge stockpile of concentrated natural
uranium - reached a Canadian port Saturday to
complete a secret U.S. operation that included a
two-week airlift from Baghdad and a ship voyage
crossing two oceans.
The removal of 550 metric tons of "yellowcake" - the
seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment -
was a significant step toward closing the books on
Saddam's nuclear legacy. It also brought relief to
U.S. and Iraqi authorities who had worried the cache
would reach insurgents or smugglers crossing to Iran
to aid its nuclear ambitions.
"Everyone is very happy to have this safely out of
Iraq," said a senior U.S. official who outlined the
nearly three-month operation to The Associated Press.
The deal culminated more than a year of intense
diplomatic and military initiatives - kept hushed in
fear of ambushes or attacks once the convoys were
under way: first carrying 3,500 barrels by road to
Baghdad, then on 37 military flights to the Indian
Ocean atoll of Diego Garcia and finally aboard a
U.S.-flagged ship for a 8,500-mile trip to Montreal.
A frequent indictment of the war in Iraq is that the Bush administration was negligent in planning for the securing of WMDs. The article above seems to provide evidence to the contrary.
Will be interesting to see if this makes the U.S. news...
It's already in the Canadian news:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20080708.YELLOWCAKE08/TPStory/TPNational/Ontario/